By: HEATHER MCKINLEY/myfoxatlanta
ATLANTA - Atlanta police said Wednesday that they are investigating a series of animal mutilation cases in one neighborhood. A headless goat was discovered by residents near an elementary school.
The mutilated animals have been found at the intersection of Fairburn Road and Adkins Place in northwest Atlanta. The area is located right next to Townes Elementary School and Harper Archer Middle School, providing a gruesome walk for students and parents.
"I think it might be some kind of gang thing and they want this turf and they are trying to send a message," said neighbor Steve Durden.
Residents in area said various mutilated animals have been dumped in the road, including chickens, hens, roosters and now a goat.
Neighbor Aleisha Adams said she thought it was some sort of religious ritual. "It's very disturbing," Adams said.
The students at the nearby schools have to cross the intersection where the carcasses have been dumped.
"That would put fear in the kids' heart, in the mind," said neighbor Harvey Hood. "Next it will be a dead body out there with its head cut off."
Police said they suspect the mutilations are some sort of ritual and now they are trying to determine why the animals are decapitated and left in the same spot.
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Saturday, November 13, 2010
Headless Goat Found in NW Atlanta Neighborhood
By: HEATHER MCKINLEY/myfoxatlanta
ATLANTA - Atlanta police said Wednesday that they are investigating a series of animal mutilation cases in one neighborhood. A headless goat was discovered by residents near an elementary school.
The mutilated animals have been found at the intersection of Fairburn Road and Adkins Place in northwest Atlanta. The area is located right next to Townes Elementary School and Harper Archer Middle School, providing a gruesome walk for students and parents.
"I think it might be some kind of gang thing and they want this turf and they are trying to send a message," said neighbor Steve Durden.
Residents in area said various mutilated animals have been dumped in the road, including chickens, hens, roosters and now a goat.
Neighbor Aleisha Adams said she thought it was some sort of religious ritual. "It's very disturbing," Adams said.
The students at the nearby schools have to cross the intersection where the carcasses have been dumped.
"That would put fear in the kids' heart, in the mind," said neighbor Harvey Hood. "Next it will be a dead body out there with its head cut off."
Police said they suspect the mutilations are some sort of ritual and now they are trying to determine why the animals are decapitated and left in the same spot.
ATLANTA - Atlanta police said Wednesday that they are investigating a series of animal mutilation cases in one neighborhood. A headless goat was discovered by residents near an elementary school.
The mutilated animals have been found at the intersection of Fairburn Road and Adkins Place in northwest Atlanta. The area is located right next to Townes Elementary School and Harper Archer Middle School, providing a gruesome walk for students and parents.
"I think it might be some kind of gang thing and they want this turf and they are trying to send a message," said neighbor Steve Durden.
Residents in area said various mutilated animals have been dumped in the road, including chickens, hens, roosters and now a goat.
Neighbor Aleisha Adams said she thought it was some sort of religious ritual. "It's very disturbing," Adams said.
The students at the nearby schools have to cross the intersection where the carcasses have been dumped.
"That would put fear in the kids' heart, in the mind," said neighbor Harvey Hood. "Next it will be a dead body out there with its head cut off."
Police said they suspect the mutilations are some sort of ritual and now they are trying to determine why the animals are decapitated and left in the same spot.
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
Owners may be nearing answers to cow mutilation mystery
SARA GUEVARA/The Times
Kathy Cooper pets Tootsie Wednesday as she recalls the numerous cattle mutilations and killings that have occurred on her South Hall farm. The Coopers have lost 20 cows on their farm over the past year.
John and Kathy Cooper feel they are getting closer to solving the mystery behind the cattle mutilations at their South Hall Farm.
In September, they discovered one of their cows dead in the pasture with its udders completely removed. It was the 20th cow they had found dead or mutilated in a year's time.
A recent article in The Times about the Coopers' situation lead to more stories on Atlanta TV stations and even CNN and Coast to Coast radio.
The exposure over the last month has brought a number of experts to visit their 200-plus acres in Chestnut Mountain.
"It went nationwide and because of that we've gotten ideas of what to do,"
Kathy Cooper said. "With the research scientists and investigators and everything, we would just sit around for hours and talk about the details."
In the last month, the Coopers have gotten a dog to help alert them of people on the property, have offered an award for any information leading to the culprit behind the mutilations and are better prepared to gather clues in case of any future incidents.
A research scientist said if another cow is mutilated, a veterinarian should be called to do an on-site necropsy.
"He said the critical thing is to get a vet to agree to come on site so you don't lose any time," Cooper said.
"Your evidence a lot of times disappears over time."
Cooper also hopes to get more clues from tests being performed on the cow killed last month. The University of Georgia Veterinary School determined that one of the Cooper's other cows had been poisoned.
"This one I think they are going to spend some more time with the tissue samples and the blood samples," Cooper said.
Cooper said an investigator at the Hall County Sheriff's Office is taking calls for any leads to who could be behind the cattle mutilations.
"He has had a lot of phone calls, but most of it has to do with extraterrestrial theories," Cooper said. "Hall County has put a lot of effort into this and really spent a lot of time on it. I think he thinks we're getting
closer to making some sense of it."
Cooper said supernatural causes are often blamed for cattle mutilation cases.
"They believe it's got to be something other than humans," Cooper said.
Cattle mutilations have been reported across the country with little explanation despite extensive studies. The cows are discovered with their udders or genitals cleanly removed with a nearly surgical precision. The
mutilations are often attributed to a variety of causes, including everything from extraterrestrials and cults to natural predators and decomposition.
Cooper said it is hard for her to image that something other than a person is doing this to her cows.
"You really can't rule that out because you don't have proof one way or another," Cooper said. "It's hard for me to understand it, I can't believe it."
Anyone with information can contact the Hall County Sheriff's Office Criminal Investigation Division at 770-531-6879.
By Melissa Weinman
Gainsville Times
Kathy Cooper pets Tootsie Wednesday as she recalls the numerous cattle mutilations and killings that have occurred on her South Hall farm. The Coopers have lost 20 cows on their farm over the past year.
John and Kathy Cooper feel they are getting closer to solving the mystery behind the cattle mutilations at their South Hall Farm.
In September, they discovered one of their cows dead in the pasture with its udders completely removed. It was the 20th cow they had found dead or mutilated in a year's time.
A recent article in The Times about the Coopers' situation lead to more stories on Atlanta TV stations and even CNN and Coast to Coast radio.
The exposure over the last month has brought a number of experts to visit their 200-plus acres in Chestnut Mountain.
"It went nationwide and because of that we've gotten ideas of what to do,"
Kathy Cooper said. "With the research scientists and investigators and everything, we would just sit around for hours and talk about the details."
In the last month, the Coopers have gotten a dog to help alert them of people on the property, have offered an award for any information leading to the culprit behind the mutilations and are better prepared to gather clues in case of any future incidents.
A research scientist said if another cow is mutilated, a veterinarian should be called to do an on-site necropsy.
"He said the critical thing is to get a vet to agree to come on site so you don't lose any time," Cooper said.
"Your evidence a lot of times disappears over time."
Cooper also hopes to get more clues from tests being performed on the cow killed last month. The University of Georgia Veterinary School determined that one of the Cooper's other cows had been poisoned.
"This one I think they are going to spend some more time with the tissue samples and the blood samples," Cooper said.
Cooper said an investigator at the Hall County Sheriff's Office is taking calls for any leads to who could be behind the cattle mutilations.
"He has had a lot of phone calls, but most of it has to do with extraterrestrial theories," Cooper said. "Hall County has put a lot of effort into this and really spent a lot of time on it. I think he thinks we're getting
closer to making some sense of it."
Cooper said supernatural causes are often blamed for cattle mutilation cases.
"They believe it's got to be something other than humans," Cooper said.
Cattle mutilations have been reported across the country with little explanation despite extensive studies. The cows are discovered with their udders or genitals cleanly removed with a nearly surgical precision. The
mutilations are often attributed to a variety of causes, including everything from extraterrestrials and cults to natural predators and decomposition.
Cooper said it is hard for her to image that something other than a person is doing this to her cows.
"You really can't rule that out because you don't have proof one way or another," Cooper said. "It's hard for me to understand it, I can't believe it."
Anyone with information can contact the Hall County Sheriff's Office Criminal Investigation Division at 770-531-6879.
By Melissa Weinman
Gainsville Times
Owners may be nearing answers to cow mutilation mystery
SARA GUEVARA/The Times
Kathy Cooper pets Tootsie Wednesday as she recalls the numerous cattle mutilations and killings that have occurred on her South Hall farm. The Coopers have lost 20 cows on their farm over the past year.
John and Kathy Cooper feel they are getting closer to solving the mystery behind the cattle mutilations at their South Hall Farm.
In September, they discovered one of their cows dead in the pasture with its udders completely removed. It was the 20th cow they had found dead or mutilated in a year's time.
A recent article in The Times about the Coopers' situation lead to more stories on Atlanta TV stations and even CNN and Coast to Coast radio.
The exposure over the last month has brought a number of experts to visit their 200-plus acres in Chestnut Mountain.
"It went nationwide and because of that we've gotten ideas of what to do,"
Kathy Cooper said. "With the research scientists and investigators and everything, we would just sit around for hours and talk about the details."
In the last month, the Coopers have gotten a dog to help alert them of people on the property, have offered an award for any information leading to the culprit behind the mutilations and are better prepared to gather clues in case of any future incidents.
A research scientist said if another cow is mutilated, a veterinarian should be called to do an on-site necropsy.
"He said the critical thing is to get a vet to agree to come on site so you don't lose any time," Cooper said.
"Your evidence a lot of times disappears over time."
Cooper also hopes to get more clues from tests being performed on the cow killed last month. The University of Georgia Veterinary School determined that one of the Cooper's other cows had been poisoned.
"This one I think they are going to spend some more time with the tissue samples and the blood samples," Cooper said.
Cooper said an investigator at the Hall County Sheriff's Office is taking calls for any leads to who could be behind the cattle mutilations.
"He has had a lot of phone calls, but most of it has to do with extraterrestrial theories," Cooper said. "Hall County has put a lot of effort into this and really spent a lot of time on it. I think he thinks we're getting
closer to making some sense of it."
Cooper said supernatural causes are often blamed for cattle mutilation cases.
"They believe it's got to be something other than humans," Cooper said.
Cattle mutilations have been reported across the country with little explanation despite extensive studies. The cows are discovered with their udders or genitals cleanly removed with a nearly surgical precision. The
mutilations are often attributed to a variety of causes, including everything from extraterrestrials and cults to natural predators and decomposition.
Cooper said it is hard for her to image that something other than a person is doing this to her cows.
"You really can't rule that out because you don't have proof one way or another," Cooper said. "It's hard for me to understand it, I can't believe it."
Anyone with information can contact the Hall County Sheriff's Office Criminal Investigation Division at 770-531-6879.
By Melissa Weinman
Gainsville Times
Kathy Cooper pets Tootsie Wednesday as she recalls the numerous cattle mutilations and killings that have occurred on her South Hall farm. The Coopers have lost 20 cows on their farm over the past year.
John and Kathy Cooper feel they are getting closer to solving the mystery behind the cattle mutilations at their South Hall Farm.
In September, they discovered one of their cows dead in the pasture with its udders completely removed. It was the 20th cow they had found dead or mutilated in a year's time.
A recent article in The Times about the Coopers' situation lead to more stories on Atlanta TV stations and even CNN and Coast to Coast radio.
The exposure over the last month has brought a number of experts to visit their 200-plus acres in Chestnut Mountain.
"It went nationwide and because of that we've gotten ideas of what to do,"
Kathy Cooper said. "With the research scientists and investigators and everything, we would just sit around for hours and talk about the details."
In the last month, the Coopers have gotten a dog to help alert them of people on the property, have offered an award for any information leading to the culprit behind the mutilations and are better prepared to gather clues in case of any future incidents.
A research scientist said if another cow is mutilated, a veterinarian should be called to do an on-site necropsy.
"He said the critical thing is to get a vet to agree to come on site so you don't lose any time," Cooper said.
"Your evidence a lot of times disappears over time."
Cooper also hopes to get more clues from tests being performed on the cow killed last month. The University of Georgia Veterinary School determined that one of the Cooper's other cows had been poisoned.
"This one I think they are going to spend some more time with the tissue samples and the blood samples," Cooper said.
Cooper said an investigator at the Hall County Sheriff's Office is taking calls for any leads to who could be behind the cattle mutilations.
"He has had a lot of phone calls, but most of it has to do with extraterrestrial theories," Cooper said. "Hall County has put a lot of effort into this and really spent a lot of time on it. I think he thinks we're getting
closer to making some sense of it."
Cooper said supernatural causes are often blamed for cattle mutilation cases.
"They believe it's got to be something other than humans," Cooper said.
Cattle mutilations have been reported across the country with little explanation despite extensive studies. The cows are discovered with their udders or genitals cleanly removed with a nearly surgical precision. The
mutilations are often attributed to a variety of causes, including everything from extraterrestrials and cults to natural predators and decomposition.
Cooper said it is hard for her to image that something other than a person is doing this to her cows.
"You really can't rule that out because you don't have proof one way or another," Cooper said. "It's hard for me to understand it, I can't believe it."
Anyone with information can contact the Hall County Sheriff's Office Criminal Investigation Division at 770-531-6879.
By Melissa Weinman
Gainsville Times
Monday, September 6, 2010
Atlanta Zoo Faces State Inspection After Snake Escape (Via HerpDigest)
Atlanta Zoo Faces State Inspection After Snake Escape (Tiger Cobra)
By Kate Brumback AP, 9/1/10
ATLANTA - Georgia wildlife officials plan to inspect an Atlanta zoo after a rattlesnake was able to escape and slither around a city neighborhood, where it was discovered by a 2-year-old boy.
After spending Saturday afternoon at the nearby park that surrounds Zoo Atlanta, the Mower family returned to a house they are renovating across the street from the zoo. When their toddler, Pierce, ran out onto the porch, his mother followed and saw the venomous snake just feet away from her son.
"It's hard because I keep thinking about how close my child and I were to that snake," Marie Mower said today.
Zoo Atlanta staff noticed the female tiger rattlesnake was missing during a routine check late Friday but have said they believed it probably remained inside the building where it was caged. Because of the reptile's nocturnal nature and dislike of people, they said they believed that if it had exited the building it wouldn't likely be a significant danger to anyone.
The Mowers thought about calling animal control but were worried the snake would wriggle away and continue to lurk outside their house. Instead, Guy Mower grabbed an extra floorboard and used it to kill the snake, his wife said.
She said she wishes the zoo had done a better job of notifying neighbors.
"No alert or no signs could have prevented the snake from ending up on our porch, but if we'd known it was missing from the zoo, my husband might not have had to kill the snake," she said.
Marie Mower saw media reports about the missing snake late Sunday and called the zoo early Monday. A zoo staff member sent to the house immediately confirmed that it was the missing rattlesnake.
Zoo officials called the Mowers to apologize after The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Tuesday that her son had found the snake, Mower said.
Zoo president and CEO Raymond King also issued a public apology Tuesday afternoon.
Zoo officials have said a staff member did not properly secure a door to the cage holding the snake, which had been confiscated by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and was being housed temporarily at the zoo.
"As a result of this unfortunate event, we are re-evaluating our procedures and protocols regarding animal management and how we communicate to the public, our members, our guests and neighbors," King wrote. "We apologize to anyone who was unaware of the incident, and we regret any worry felt by our community."
An inspection team from Georgia's Department of Natural Resources will be sent to Zoo Atlanta in the next week or two to investigate the escape, which violates the zoo's state-issued permit to keep wild animals, DNR spokeswoman Lauren Curry said.
The inspection should take about a day and a letter containing the team's findings will be sent to the zoo within a week and will be made public.
Authorities have not decided whether the zoo will face any penalties, but they generally take into account a facility's history and the nature of the violation, Curry said. By law, state wildlife officials can impose a range of sanctions, ranging from a letter ordering a zoo to make improvements to seizing its animals, imposing a $1,000 fine per violation and revoking its permit for two years in an extreme case.
Georgia is home to six species of venomous snakes, according to the website of the Georgia Department of Natural Resources' Wildlife Resources Division. The tiger rattlesnake is not among them, but comes from the southwestern United States.
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By Kate Brumback AP, 9/1/10
ATLANTA - Georgia wildlife officials plan to inspect an Atlanta zoo after a rattlesnake was able to escape and slither around a city neighborhood, where it was discovered by a 2-year-old boy.
After spending Saturday afternoon at the nearby park that surrounds Zoo Atlanta, the Mower family returned to a house they are renovating across the street from the zoo. When their toddler, Pierce, ran out onto the porch, his mother followed and saw the venomous snake just feet away from her son.
"It's hard because I keep thinking about how close my child and I were to that snake," Marie Mower said today.
Zoo Atlanta staff noticed the female tiger rattlesnake was missing during a routine check late Friday but have said they believed it probably remained inside the building where it was caged. Because of the reptile's nocturnal nature and dislike of people, they said they believed that if it had exited the building it wouldn't likely be a significant danger to anyone.
The Mowers thought about calling animal control but were worried the snake would wriggle away and continue to lurk outside their house. Instead, Guy Mower grabbed an extra floorboard and used it to kill the snake, his wife said.
She said she wishes the zoo had done a better job of notifying neighbors.
"No alert or no signs could have prevented the snake from ending up on our porch, but if we'd known it was missing from the zoo, my husband might not have had to kill the snake," she said.
Marie Mower saw media reports about the missing snake late Sunday and called the zoo early Monday. A zoo staff member sent to the house immediately confirmed that it was the missing rattlesnake.
Zoo officials called the Mowers to apologize after The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Tuesday that her son had found the snake, Mower said.
Zoo president and CEO Raymond King also issued a public apology Tuesday afternoon.
Zoo officials have said a staff member did not properly secure a door to the cage holding the snake, which had been confiscated by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and was being housed temporarily at the zoo.
"As a result of this unfortunate event, we are re-evaluating our procedures and protocols regarding animal management and how we communicate to the public, our members, our guests and neighbors," King wrote. "We apologize to anyone who was unaware of the incident, and we regret any worry felt by our community."
An inspection team from Georgia's Department of Natural Resources will be sent to Zoo Atlanta in the next week or two to investigate the escape, which violates the zoo's state-issued permit to keep wild animals, DNR spokeswoman Lauren Curry said.
The inspection should take about a day and a letter containing the team's findings will be sent to the zoo within a week and will be made public.
Authorities have not decided whether the zoo will face any penalties, but they generally take into account a facility's history and the nature of the violation, Curry said. By law, state wildlife officials can impose a range of sanctions, ranging from a letter ordering a zoo to make improvements to seizing its animals, imposing a $1,000 fine per violation and revoking its permit for two years in an extreme case.
Georgia is home to six species of venomous snakes, according to the website of the Georgia Department of Natural Resources' Wildlife Resources Division. The tiger rattlesnake is not among them, but comes from the southwestern United States.
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Atlanta Zoo Faces State Inspection After Snake Escape (Via HerpDigest)
Atlanta Zoo Faces State Inspection After Snake Escape (Tiger Cobra)
By Kate Brumback AP, 9/1/10
ATLANTA - Georgia wildlife officials plan to inspect an Atlanta zoo after a rattlesnake was able to escape and slither around a city neighborhood, where it was discovered by a 2-year-old boy.
After spending Saturday afternoon at the nearby park that surrounds Zoo Atlanta, the Mower family returned to a house they are renovating across the street from the zoo. When their toddler, Pierce, ran out onto the porch, his mother followed and saw the venomous snake just feet away from her son.
"It's hard because I keep thinking about how close my child and I were to that snake," Marie Mower said today.
Zoo Atlanta staff noticed the female tiger rattlesnake was missing during a routine check late Friday but have said they believed it probably remained inside the building where it was caged. Because of the reptile's nocturnal nature and dislike of people, they said they believed that if it had exited the building it wouldn't likely be a significant danger to anyone.
The Mowers thought about calling animal control but were worried the snake would wriggle away and continue to lurk outside their house. Instead, Guy Mower grabbed an extra floorboard and used it to kill the snake, his wife said.
She said she wishes the zoo had done a better job of notifying neighbors.
"No alert or no signs could have prevented the snake from ending up on our porch, but if we'd known it was missing from the zoo, my husband might not have had to kill the snake," she said.
Marie Mower saw media reports about the missing snake late Sunday and called the zoo early Monday. A zoo staff member sent to the house immediately confirmed that it was the missing rattlesnake.
Zoo officials called the Mowers to apologize after The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Tuesday that her son had found the snake, Mower said.
Zoo president and CEO Raymond King also issued a public apology Tuesday afternoon.
Zoo officials have said a staff member did not properly secure a door to the cage holding the snake, which had been confiscated by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and was being housed temporarily at the zoo.
"As a result of this unfortunate event, we are re-evaluating our procedures and protocols regarding animal management and how we communicate to the public, our members, our guests and neighbors," King wrote. "We apologize to anyone who was unaware of the incident, and we regret any worry felt by our community."
An inspection team from Georgia's Department of Natural Resources will be sent to Zoo Atlanta in the next week or two to investigate the escape, which violates the zoo's state-issued permit to keep wild animals, DNR spokeswoman Lauren Curry said.
The inspection should take about a day and a letter containing the team's findings will be sent to the zoo within a week and will be made public.
Authorities have not decided whether the zoo will face any penalties, but they generally take into account a facility's history and the nature of the violation, Curry said. By law, state wildlife officials can impose a range of sanctions, ranging from a letter ordering a zoo to make improvements to seizing its animals, imposing a $1,000 fine per violation and revoking its permit for two years in an extreme case.
Georgia is home to six species of venomous snakes, according to the website of the Georgia Department of Natural Resources' Wildlife Resources Division. The tiger rattlesnake is not among them, but comes from the southwestern United States.
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By Kate Brumback AP, 9/1/10
ATLANTA - Georgia wildlife officials plan to inspect an Atlanta zoo after a rattlesnake was able to escape and slither around a city neighborhood, where it was discovered by a 2-year-old boy.
After spending Saturday afternoon at the nearby park that surrounds Zoo Atlanta, the Mower family returned to a house they are renovating across the street from the zoo. When their toddler, Pierce, ran out onto the porch, his mother followed and saw the venomous snake just feet away from her son.
"It's hard because I keep thinking about how close my child and I were to that snake," Marie Mower said today.
Zoo Atlanta staff noticed the female tiger rattlesnake was missing during a routine check late Friday but have said they believed it probably remained inside the building where it was caged. Because of the reptile's nocturnal nature and dislike of people, they said they believed that if it had exited the building it wouldn't likely be a significant danger to anyone.
The Mowers thought about calling animal control but were worried the snake would wriggle away and continue to lurk outside their house. Instead, Guy Mower grabbed an extra floorboard and used it to kill the snake, his wife said.
She said she wishes the zoo had done a better job of notifying neighbors.
"No alert or no signs could have prevented the snake from ending up on our porch, but if we'd known it was missing from the zoo, my husband might not have had to kill the snake," she said.
Marie Mower saw media reports about the missing snake late Sunday and called the zoo early Monday. A zoo staff member sent to the house immediately confirmed that it was the missing rattlesnake.
Zoo officials called the Mowers to apologize after The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Tuesday that her son had found the snake, Mower said.
Zoo president and CEO Raymond King also issued a public apology Tuesday afternoon.
Zoo officials have said a staff member did not properly secure a door to the cage holding the snake, which had been confiscated by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and was being housed temporarily at the zoo.
"As a result of this unfortunate event, we are re-evaluating our procedures and protocols regarding animal management and how we communicate to the public, our members, our guests and neighbors," King wrote. "We apologize to anyone who was unaware of the incident, and we regret any worry felt by our community."
An inspection team from Georgia's Department of Natural Resources will be sent to Zoo Atlanta in the next week or two to investigate the escape, which violates the zoo's state-issued permit to keep wild animals, DNR spokeswoman Lauren Curry said.
The inspection should take about a day and a letter containing the team's findings will be sent to the zoo within a week and will be made public.
Authorities have not decided whether the zoo will face any penalties, but they generally take into account a facility's history and the nature of the violation, Curry said. By law, state wildlife officials can impose a range of sanctions, ranging from a letter ordering a zoo to make improvements to seizing its animals, imposing a $1,000 fine per violation and revoking its permit for two years in an extreme case.
Georgia is home to six species of venomous snakes, according to the website of the Georgia Department of Natural Resources' Wildlife Resources Division. The tiger rattlesnake is not among them, but comes from the southwestern United States.
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